# Gemini Sucks

**URL:** <https://onehack.st/t/gemini-sucks/326658>\
**Category:** Discussion & Solutions\
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**Created:** [Oktober 22, 2026, 2:59am UTC](https://onehack.st/t/gemini-sucks/326658 "2026-10-22T02:59:13Z")\
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**Post date:** [Oktober 23, 2026, 4:11am UTC](https://onehack.st/t/gemini-sucks/326658/6 "2026-10-23T04:11:31Z")

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@Grace2077 asked the question everyone should be asking: free plan or paid. Because those are two different machines.

You are not talking to a bad model. You are talking to the cheap one, which runs out of patience around lunchtime.

@starslayer74 and @ai_daily_tools describe the same split from two angles: fine on long documents and transcripts, then it quietly renames variables in your diff. That is the thinking dial, more often than the model itself.

```auto
🚦 slow, or "quota exceeded" → the status board, then your own limits
🧠 shallow, lazy answers → the thinking level, then the tier
📚 confidently wrong on facts → grounding, switched off by default
🗣️ "everyone else sees this too" → the rooms where daily users live
🥊 "prove it, don't vibe it" → the arenas and the leaderboards

```

## 🚦 Slow, or refusing with quota errors

- **[Google Cloud status](https://status.cloud.google.com)** — a regional Gemini incident is the first thing to rule out, and it takes ten seconds
- **[Your active rate limits](https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/rate-limits)** — RPM, TPM and RPD are three separate walls, and AI Studio shows yours. A free project hitting the daily cap behaves exactly like a broken model
- On the free tier, your prompts are used to improve the product. On paid, they are not. That is on **[the pricing page](https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/pricing)** in the part nobody reads, next to the numbers. Linking billing moves you to Tier 1 with a $250 cap and no training on your data

## 🧠 Shallow, lazy, “it stopped trying”

**There is a dial for how hard it thinks before answering.** Gemini 3 decides its own depth by default, and you can raise or lower it — **[the developer guide](https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/generate-content/gemini-3)** has the parameter, AI Studio puts it on the panel.

Set it low and you get confident nonsense, delivered fast. Set it high and the same question gets a real answer. Most people never touch the dial, then decide the engine is broken.

Then check the box: **Flash and Pro are different products sharing a name.** Same website, different engine. The free one is the small one, and its rate limit decides when you have had enough for today.

## 📚 Confidently wrong about facts

**[Grounding with Google Search](https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/grounding)** is a flag, and when it is off the model answers from memory. Turn it on and the same question gets citations instead of confidence.

## 🗣 You wanted to know if it is just you

- **[r/Bard](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/)** — the largest room of daily Gemini users. Sort by new for an hour and you will recognise your own complaint, with its fix, from someone who already solved it
- **[Google’s own AI developers forum](https://discuss.ai.google.dev)** — the place where the quirks get named, including which model ignores which instruction

That is the part a benchmark cannot give you: a room of people whose day looks like yours.

## 🥊 And when you want the argument settled

- **[llm-colosseum](https://github.com/OpenGenerativeAI/llm-colosseum)** ★1,482 — the models fight in **Street Fighter 3** ; the winner is the one that actually decides faster
- **[Design Arena](https://www.designarena.ai)** — same brief, every model builds the UI, you vote
- **[LiveBench](https://livebench.ai)** — contamination-free questions, refreshed monthly
- **[Artificial Analysis](https://artificialanalysis.ai)** — quality against price and tokens per second on one chart
- **[Aider’s leaderboard](https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/)** — real coding edits, ranked

## 🧪 Your own scoreboard, ten minutes

```auto
1 the task you do every day
2 30 pages pasted, ask for the three decisions inside
3 your domain question, where you know the answer

```

Score 1–5 across the models in **[AI Studio](https://aistudio.google.com)** and **[OpenRouter](https://openrouter.ai/chat)**. Twelve models, two sittings, one table that is yours.

And if you want to leave the family entirely, **[34 providers and 635 endpoints behind one key](https://onehack.st/t/free-ai-instead-of-chatgpt-and-claude-34-providers-635-endpoints-one-key/326626)** is the shelf we keep for that exact mood. 📁

**Check the plan. Check the dial. Then complain.** 😤

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