# Is it safe to buy items from carders? **URL:** \ **Category:** Discussion & Solutions\ **Tags:** solved\ **Created:** [October 23, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://onehack.st/t/is-it-safe-to-buy-items-from-carders/312232 "2025-10-23T13:39:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pluma\_Tools](https://onehack.st/user_avatar/onehack.st/pluma_tools/32/162079_2.png) [@Pluma\_Tools](https://onehack.st/u/Pluma_Tools)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://onehack.st/t/is-it-safe-to-buy-items-from-carders/312232/1 "2025-10-23T13:39:05Z")
Hello, I wanna see if is it safe to buy any items from people who do carding. If not how we can be safe from those guys ? 🚩 It’s only for education purpose ---
**Author:** ![The\_Nice\_guy](https://onehack.st/user_avatar/onehack.st/the_nice_guy/32/160348_2.png) [@The\_Nice\_guy](https://onehack.st/u/The_Nice_guy)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 2:17pm UTC](https://onehack.st/t/is-it-safe-to-buy-items-from-carders/312232/2 "2025-10-23T14:17:12Z")
buying from people doing carding is like buying weed(its not legal) how you can identify?? – well if the order or the price is too good to be true its based on what region you are from even then is you wanna buy use a fake address maybe a public park i guess use proxy and vpn too for extra anonymity as usual fake identity and details (for education purposes only) ---
**Author:** ![PlayBoy83](https://onehack.st/user_avatar/onehack.st/playboy83/32/164314_2.png) [@PlayBoy83](https://onehack.st/u/PlayBoy83)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 8:29am UTC](https://onehack.st/t/is-it-safe-to-buy-items-from-carders/312232/3 "2025-12-22T08:29:16Z")
**Short answer:** No. Absolutely fucking not. **Long answer:** Let me show you what actually happens to real people who tried this. Just real confessions! - [Hey, Sir can you help with some deep web knowledge - #6 by TheJoker](https://onehack.st/t/hey-sir-can-you-help-with-some-deep-web-knowledge/102058/6) * * * ## 🎭 Two Ways This Ends (Both Are Bad) > **Option A: You Get Scammed (99% of cases) 👈 click me** > > Here’s the hilarious part — most “carders” on Telegram **don’t even have stolen cards**. They’re just regular scammers pretending to be criminals to rob wannabe criminals. > > **The script is always the same:** > > 1. iPhone 70% off! 🤑 > 2. You pay > 3. “Need ₹2,000 more for shipping” > 4. “₹1,000 more for GST verification” > 5. “Also my mom needs surgery” _(real example lmao)_ > 6. **Blocked.** > > Security researchers estimate **99% of Telegram carding channels are pure scams**. You’re not buying from hackers — you’re getting robbed by some dude in his underwear copy-pasting fake proof videos. > > 📎 **Source:** [TheQuint Investigation - How Telegram Channels Lure Buyers](https://www.thequint.com/news/webqoof/telegram-scam-where-scammers-lure-gadget-buyers-with-fake-deals) > **Option B: It Actually Works → You're Fucked** > > Let’s say you find the magical 1% who deliver. Congrats! You’re now a federal crime participant. > > **Under US law** → knowingly receiving goods bought with stolen cards (over $1,000/year) = up to **10 years prison + $10,000 fine** > > Courts use a “should have known” standard. iPhone for $200 when retail is $1,200? That’s evidence you knew. Your “I didn’t know bro” defense is already dead on arrival. > > 📎 **Source:** [15 U.S. Code § 1644 - Cornell Law](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1644) > 📎 **Source:** [FindLaw - Can You Get Arrested for Buying Stolen Goods?](https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/can-you-get-arrested-for-buying-stolen-goods/) * * * ## 💀 Real People, Real Consequences > **Scam Victims (Lost Money, Got Nothing)** > > > **Hemant Kumar:** _“I paid him 2k. Payment done, he cleared the chat and blocked me.”_ > > > **Abhishek Chaurasia** lost ₹6,500: _“I got trapped by the reviews… greed is the worst thing.”_ > > > **Leslie Pereira** lost ₹20,000: _“I was greedy and lost 20k. Beware.”_ > > > **Random Quora user:** _“There is no real carder on Telegram. Real carders hide their identity. Why would they go public and sell cheap?”_ > > One victim documented being asked for payment, then shipping fee, then “OTP tax,” then “pandemic charges” — each time thinking “this is the last one.” It never was. > > 📎 **Source:** [India Consumer Forum - Telegram Carding Fraud Complaints](https://www.indiaconsumerforum.org/complaint-regarding-telegram-carding-fraud/) > 📎 **Source:** [Quora - How Trustworthy Are Carders on Telegram?](https://www.quora.com/How-trustworthy-are-carders-in-Telegram) > 📎 **Source:** [Pavithran.net - Fraud Telegram Channels Exposed](https://www.pavithran.net/beware-of-fake-telegram-channels-who/) > **People Who Got Caught (Prison Time)** > > | Who | What Happened | Sentence | > | --- | --- | --- | > | **David Ray Camez** , 22 | Bought fake IDs + gift cards | **20 YEARS** + $50.8M restitution | > | **Cameron Harrison** | Mid-level carding | **~10 YEARS** + $50M restitution | > | **Roman Seleznev** | Major carder (Russian politician’s son) | **27 YEARS** — will die in prison | > > Cameron’s quote from prison: > > > _“When you’re sitting there for several years, you definitely think about whether it was worth it.”_ > > 📎 **Source:** [Krebs on Security - Roman Seleznev’s 27-Year Sentence](https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/04/the-backstory-behind-carder-kingpin-roman-seleznevs-record-27-year-prison-sentence/) > 📎 **Source:** [Darknet Diaries Podcast - Cam the Carder (Episode 85)](https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/85/) > 📎 **Source:** [PCWorld - Georgia Man Gets 9 Years for Stolen Card Data](https://www.pcworld.com/article/436378/georgia-man-sentenced-to-nine-years-for-stolen-credit-card-data.html) > **Bonus: Even Carders Get Robbed by Carders 🎪** > > **Evolution Marketplace** (2015) — admins vanished overnight with **$12-35 MILLION in Bitcoin** from their own criminal customers. > > One staff member posted on Reddit: > > > _“I am so sorry, but Verto and Kimble have fucked us all. I have over $20,000 in escrow myself.”_ > > **Yale Lodge** (2023) — biggest stolen card shop at the time. Same story. Just stopped paying out and ghosted everyone. > > **Altenen Forum** — staff ran fake escrow scams on their own users. Leaked messages showed mods pocketing $600+ per scam while admins looked the other way. > > There’s no honor among thieves. Even criminals get robbed by criminals. > > 📎 **Source:** [Computerworld - Evolution Marketplace Exit Scam](https://www.computerworld.com/article/1632818/darknets-evolution-drug-marketplace-poofs-along-with-12-million-in-bitcoins.html) > 📎 **Source:** [Elliptic - Yale Lodge Exit Scam Analysis](https://www.elliptic.co/blog/analysis/largest-stolen-credit-card-market-shunned-by-cybercriminals-after-alleged-exit-scam) > 📎 **Source:** [ReliaQuest - Carding Forum Staff Defraud Their Own Users](https://reliaquest.com/blog/theres-no-honor-among-thieves-carding-forum-staff-defraud-users-in-an-escrow-scam/) > 📎 **Source:** [The Record - On Hacking Forums, Even Scammers Aren’t Safe](https://therecord.media/on-hacking-forums-even-the-scammers-arent-safe) * * * ## 🛡 How To Stay Safe From These Guys > **Click for actual advice** > > - **Price too good?** → Scam or stolen (both fuck you) > - **Crypto/gift cards/PayPal F&F?** → Zero protection, money gone forever > - **Telegram/WhatsApp sellers?** → Assume scam. Always. > - **“Extra fees” after payment?** → You already lost. Don’t send more. > - **Fancy proof videos?** → Same clips recycled with music to hide same voice * * * ## Summary | What You Think | What Actually Happens | | --- | --- | | Get iPhone for $200 | Lose $200 to some guy who blocked you | | Become smart shopper | Become federal defendant | | Save money | Pay millions in restitution from prison | | Outsmart the system | Get outsmarted by scammers scamming scammers | **The only winning move is not to play.** 🫡 * * * > **📚 All Sources (For The Skeptics)** > > | Topic | Source | > | --- | --- | > | Telegram Scam Investigation | [TheQuint](https://www.thequint.com/news/webqoof/telegram-scam-where-scammers-lure-gadget-buyers-with-fake-deals) | > | Victim Complaints (India) | [India Consumer Forum](https://www.indiaconsumerforum.org/complaint-regarding-telegram-carding-fraud/) | > | Fake Carder Channels Exposed | [Pavithran.net](https://www.pavithran.net/beware-of-fake-telegram-channels-who/) | > | US Federal Law on Card Fraud | [Cornell Law - 15 USC 1644](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1644) | > | Buying Stolen Goods = Arrest | [FindLaw](https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/can-you-get-arrested-for-buying-stolen-goods/) | > | Roman Seleznev 27-Year Sentence | [Krebs on Security](https://krebsonsecurity.com/2017/04/the-backstory-behind-carder-kingpin-roman-seleznevs-record-27-year-prison-sentence/) | > | Cameron Harrison Prison Interview | [Darknet Diaries Ep. 85](https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/85/) | > | Evolution $12M Exit Scam | [Computerworld](https://www.computerworld.com/article/1632818/darknets-evolution-drug-marketplace-poofs-along-with-12-million-in-bitcoins.html) | > | Yale Lodge 2023 Exit Scam | [Elliptic](https://www.elliptic.co/blog/analysis/largest-stolen-credit-card-market-shunned-by-cybercriminals-after-alleged-exit-scam) | > | Forum Staff Scamming Users | [ReliaQuest](https://reliaquest.com/blog/theres-no-honor-among-thieves-carding-forum-staff-defraud-users-in-an-escrow-scam/) | > | Scammers Getting Scammed | [The Record](https://therecord.media/on-hacking-forums-even-the-scammers-arent-safe) | > | Trustpilot Carding Forum Reviews | [Trustpilot](https://www.trustpilot.com/review/cardingforums.ws) | * * * ---
**Author:** ![AI\_Vids](https://onehack.st/user_avatar/onehack.st/ai_vids/32/163753_2.png) [@AI\_Vids](https://onehack.st/u/AI_Vids)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://onehack.st/t/is-it-safe-to-buy-items-from-carders/312232/4 "2025-12-22T12:41:32Z")
so all those who advert cheep sub of chatgpt or veo or higsfield are scams on instagram? i was plan to buy something … the adobe 4m legit activation on my email … all tha is faked? i cant affrod adobe sub, and nano banana dont work without sub. if there is something get me a cheep sub or something that also work with nano b, i take that. pls tell. ---
**Author:** ![IGNOU\_MASTER](https://onehack.st/user_avatar/onehack.st/ignou_master/32/131054_2.png) [@IGNOU\_MASTER](https://onehack.st/u/IGNOU_MASTER)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2025, 2:19pm UTC](https://onehack.st/t/is-it-safe-to-buy-items-from-carders/312232/5 "2025-12-22T14:19:34Z")
Adobe subscription method is already posted here and working fine, people’s are making multiple accounts and selling ---
**Author:** ![Ekoahamdutivnasti](https://onehack.st/user_avatar/onehack.st/ekoahamdutivnasti/32/167112_2.png) [@Ekoahamdutivnasti](https://onehack.st/u/Ekoahamdutivnasti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://onehack.st/t/is-it-safe-to-buy-items-from-carders/312232/6 "2025-12-24T09:05:04Z")
90 percent you get scammed