I was exploring the deep web. I found many websites that sell cards, dumps etc. Some provide money transfer services like PayPal money transfer. And those websites are listed in the hidden wiki or tor wiki. I know you have lots of knowledge about deep web. Can you share some trusted websites that do this kinds of frauds. Like PayPal transfer etc. Thank you.
Do you mind if I convert this PM to Public Topic? It will help other 1Hackers as well.
Nevermind, absolutely you can share publicly. It would help many for sure.
Good question. Following this topic.
All the listings you see on the Dark Web or any private hacking forum are 100% fake — there’s no such thing.
- A recent case happened with our dear 1Hacker @Ze380y at altenen.is forum.
We’ll encourage @Ze380y to share her experience with 1Hackers — how Altenen’s scam actually took place, the full story. Since she feels embarrassed to publicly share such a rookie mistake, we’ve already had a word with her regarding this.
They looted $600 worth of Bitcoin from her in exchange for a Western Union transfer at Altenen. Yeah, that’s quite a loss.
Anyways, let’s get into their sleeves.
All the posts you see on the Dark Web or any private hacking forum have this in common…
- The listing price is set a little high, starting from $250 – $300 – higher and higher…!
The price itself makes the listing look genuine. Also, their very convincing FAQ — like Altenen sellers have:
Just go through the transaction threads they’ve created from their fake accounts:
https://altenen.is/forums/atn-escrow-service.53/
- Most of the accounts aren’t active after making the purchase and creating the thread!
A quick human fact — if you’re the person getting something from a shady website for half the original price:
Would you not log in to the account to check your order status or re-order the same stuff again after some time?
Yes, you would — just like any other human being.
But in shady websites’ case: if you go through the accounts claiming they’ve purchased the service and are waiting for escrow to confirm their sent Bitcoins, or “happy customers” with reviews — they’re most likely inactive. Their last seen is quite inhuman.
The active ones you see are real accounts they’ve allowed to post such threads to ease half of their work.
The standard procedure of scamming websites:
- Get the buyer’s amount first, along with escrow service fees
- Ban the account
- Create a fake thread from the same account with a totally different look from previous fake threads
Ahh! Too much work — let the user post the thread himself to ease the above process and also to look way more natural.
Once the buyer posts the thread and PMs the seller or escrow team, the next step is predictable — ban the account to prevent further activity and whining.
Websites like Altenen seem quite smart; they might improvise their scam procedure after reading this thread, as most of our forum threads are widely shared there with no credit to the 1Hackers. 
How They Market Trust Among Their Visitors/Members
First, they’ll honestly sell small stuff to their members — services that are already easily accessible to a rookie Dark Web user, like buying the website’s VIP subscription, account activation, CC, VCC, proxy, SOCKS, etc.
When you purchase one small-amount item using their escrow service, they’ll successfully fulfill it just to create a trust environment between the buyer and the website. After this, the scam starts when you’re in the bottle!
How Does The Scam Work?
Suppose someone purchases their listed PayPal, Western Union, or any cheap smartphone/laptop gig using their so-called escrow as the middleman service. They’ll first ask for higher escrow fees compared to the previous transaction.
Once you send the escrow team the seller’s listing amount plus escrow fees, you’ll see a quick ban on your account — or no one will reply to your messages. If you keep whining to the staff like an old married woman, you’ll see an “account disabled” notification at the next login for sure!
The escrow team or internal staff are always involved in such fraudulent activity.
The Simple Human Logic
There’s one simple human logic for everything that exists in this pretty dark, selfish world:
Suppose someone has a foolproof trick, and from that, they can easily earn without getting caught.
There’s not a single person in this whole world who will share their foolproof tricks or earning service to the common public for such a cheap cost — that’s for sure!
In Dark Web cases, their listing is half the original price of the item or service. So think for yourself and always use human logic to figure out such fraudulent scams.
Hope this answers your question.
thanks man very useful info, these things make the 1HACK community stand out from the rest!
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